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Monday, September 13, 2025
Two Ways to a Ribbin’ Good Time
I love ribs. I don’t eat them that often - simply because they aren’t the leanest part of the pig. But they are easily one of the most enjoyable parts to eat. And there are times when I like (and want) nothing more than to sink my teeth into some juicy, succulent ribs. Ah! The indescribable and intense pleasure that can be derived from a piece of deeply flavorful, meaty yet meltingly tender piece of pork rib!
I happen to find eating ribs to be an incredibly sensual - and sensuous - experience. It’s all tied in with the whole notion of eating foods with your fingers; foods that are moist and oozing with juices; foods that are slightly messy… and thus fun… and sexy. I really think the tactile aspect of eating is too often missing, when, really, it should be an integral part of the experience. It’s amazing how much richer, more intense and profoundly satisfying a meal can feel when eaten with our fingers.
Ever since I came up with my little char siew recipe, I’ve had this little niggling thought playing in my head. It simply refuses to go away. No matter how much I “shoo” and wave it away, it always comes back. It’s quite determined that it will not be ignored. So in the end, I have given in to it.
I am very pleasantly surprised by the very positive responses that the char siew recipe has been receiving, not only from my own family and friends, who’ve been clamoring for the dish with alarming frequency, but also from so many readers who have tried the recipe and enjoyed it tremendously. Several readers have come back to tell me about how they have cooked the char siew on a grill and how wonderful that added layer of smokiness tastes. That has been the spark that triggered that little niggling thought : I really, really want to make some char siew ribs. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea. I just feel the char siew marinade will make for some wonderfully sumptuous ribs.
But I am a lazy cook. I’m not about to lug out the grill, set it up, start the fire, blah, blah, blah… So I’m thinking : ribs can be done in the oven – to equally good results, I’m sure. And so with a light-hearted, eager spring to my step, I’m in the kitchen in a jiffy, doing what I love: playing with my food! This is going to be fun!
First Attempt: Oven Roasted Char Siew Ribs
My initial instinct is to simply cook the ribs in a similar way to the char siew – that is, pop them onto a rack in a roasting pan and cook them in the oven whilst basting them periodically – but probably at a lower temperature and for a longer period of time than the char siew. I want ribs with fall-of-the-bone tenderness and yet are supremely moist and juicy.
For the marinade, I use the exact same char siew recipe, but without the food coloring, and doubled the quantity; I want enough marinade to cover the full rack of ribs.
The cleaned ribs are placed into the prepared marinade and left to macerate in the fridge for about 30 hours or so (this is arbitrary; overnight will do).
30-45 minutes before the ribs are to be cooked, they are removed from the fridge and allowed to come back to room temperature. Meanwhile, the oven is preheated to 180C.
The roasting pan is lined with foil (to make for easier clean-up later) and a rack placed in it. Onto the rack goes the ribs, after which they are given a good brushing of the marinade, tented with foil and popped into the oven.
And that is basically it. I simply come back every half hour or so to baste the ribs with more of the marinade (which I, in the meantime, pop onto the stove-top to cook through). Oh, and the temperature is reduced to about 150C after the first half hour.
The ribs smell incredible as they are cooking; the whole house fills with the glorious smell of roasting meat overlayed with the special aroma of char siew flavors.
The ribs are cooked for about 3 hours in total. And the final result? They are very good indeed, but still not 100% what I am looking for.
Even though the ribs are kept tented with the foil throughout the cooking process, they still get a little too charred for my liking (much as I love crispy, charred bits on meat) – due to the large quantity of maltose and sugar in the marinade. (See top picture).
While the ribs in the middle of the slab are gorgeously tender, moist, succulent and juicy, the meat on either end of the slab is a tad dry. Not inedibly so; but enough that I notice. And enough that I want to continue to tweak the recipe and create the ribs that my mind has pictured.
On that particular night, I served the ribs over mee sua (or mian sian) (thin white noodles), and it went down stupendously well with the family.
Everyone loved the combination of noodles with the char siew gravy poured over. And it was indeed delicious!
However, scrumptious as it was, I feel it still needs a little bit of adjustment… the gravy is just a tad too sweet, I think. Maybe I shouldn’t do a straightforward doubling of the marinade ingredients.
Another thing that I want to change: this method just seems a little too fiddly for my comfort. Sure, there isn’t any major work involved, by any stretch of the imagination; the meat just sits in the oven for 3 hours. But I have to keep coming back to baste the meat ; that is already too much fiddling for me! I want something that requires even less effort than that ; something that will pretty much cook itself, without me needing to give it a second thought. (Yes, I know, I do make high demands of my food!)
So, a week later, it is back in the kitchen, and a second attempt at my char siew ribs…
Second Attempt: Oven Braised Char Siew Ribs
This time, I adjust the marinade slightly from the original recipe. (This is again for a double portion of the sauce.)
• 11 tablespoons light soy sauce
• 4 tablespoons dark soy sauce
• 9 tablespoons rice wine
• 8 tablespoons hoisin sauce
• 5 tablespoons sugar
• 8 generous tablespoons maltose
• 8 pieces ginger, peeled and smashed
• 8 cloves garlic, whole, peeled and smashed
Again, the ribs are left to marinate in the fridge for a good 30 hours or so.
For the cooking method, I decide to “borrow” an idea from Alton Brown. Some time ago, while aimlessly surfing around foodtv.com, I came across a recipe for baby back ribs that Alton Brown featured on his show. The method that he used intrigued me. (Sorry, I can’t for the world of me remember the exact recipe that I read, nor can I seem to find it again. I don’t even remember what style of ribs it was; I only remember thinking that the method used to cook the ribs was interesting and I made a mental note to try it out at some point.)
In practical terms, Alton’s method calls for the ribs to be oven-braised. The meat is laid inside a “pocket” of aluminium foil; sauce is poured into the “pocket”, which is then sealed, slid onto a baking sheet and put into the oven for 2½ hours. I don’t remember the exact temperature that Alton cooked the ribs at; I do recall thinking at the time that it was a surprisingly low temperature for a relatively short cooking time. No matter. I just want to use the idea of his method, and to see how well it will work with my char siew ribs.
I simplify the “foil-pocket-making” a little: I place a double layer of foil in a roasting pan, leaving generous amount of foil on all four sides. The ribs are placed onto the foil, meat side down, and the marinade* poured over it (the meat should be nearly covered by the marinade). Another sheet of foil is placed on top, and sealed on all four sides.
* After taking the meat out of the marinade, and removing the garlic and ginger pieces, I add about ½ cup of hot water to the sauce. One simple reason for this: I want plenty of gravy leftover at the end (everyone seems to want copious amounts of the stuff to pour over rice, noodles or whatever it is that they seem to love doing with the gravy. There is no worry about diluting the gravy, as all the flavors intensify anyway during the cooking process. However, if creating lots and lots of gravy is not your priority, then it is enough to simply pour the marinade over the ribs, without adding any water, so long as the ribs are at least half covered with the marinade, so as to ensure they don’t dry out as they cook – the ribs will also release some juices during the cooking.
So, into the oven goes the packet of foil-covered ribs, and they are cooked for the first 30 minutes at 180C and the subsequent 2 hours at 150C.
Once cooked, the ribs are taken out of the gravy (there are a lot of it left in the pan – just as I want), and the gravy is poured out. The ribs are returned to the roasting pan, meat side up, given a coat of the sauce and placed under the broiler for about 4-5 minutes – just to crisp up the outside and give it the requisite slightly charred, crispy bits.
The sauce is put into a pot, placed on the stove and left to simmer on the lowest flame for about 15-20 minutes or so, or until it has reduced a little to the right gravy consistency. (The sauce does not simmer quietly; but rather, it bubbles and gurgles – sometimes fairly noisily and aggressively – away to itself. Leave it be. It is happy enough doing that; simply give it a stir every few minutes or so to keep it under control.)
After the ribs come out from under the broiler, leave them to rest for about 10-15 minutes before serving.
And what can I say? The ribs look absolutely gorgeous! The meat is a glossy, shiny sheen of succulence, with just the right amount of slightly charred crispy bits around the edges.
The meat. Oh, the meat! Oh my! It is lip-smackingly good! It truly is. The ribs are cooked to tender perfection; fall-of-the-bone tender perfection. Indeed, one of the bones did literally fall off even as I transferred the meat from the roasting pan to the plate! It is that tender. And yet, there is still the right amount of toothsome meatiness. Just perfect. If I do say so myself.
The outside is nicely crisp, the inside meltingly soft, moist and oozing with juiciness. And this time, the flavorings are all spot on.
Wow, even I am stunned at how good the ribs are.
The difference in the tenderness and texture of the meat between this cooking method and the previous one is fairly stark. I definitely like this braising method a lot better.
I am quite satisfied and happy with the recipe as it stands. And I think this is one great party dish. It can be cooked in large batches (subject to oven size of course). Plus, it is so un-needy of attention. It’s something I can bung into the oven and pretty much forget about ; it quite happily cooks away in the background, leaving time to mingle with guests or just to sit back and relax. And of course, the final bonus: the char siew flavor is a delectable winner.
This is something I will quite happily make over and over again.
Note:
• The cooking times above are for baby backs. If using spare ribs, the cooking time will need to be lengthened accordingly.
• For those who may not want such melt-in-the-mouth, tender-textured meat (and there are a couple in my family who prefer a slightly meatier bite), the cooking time can be reduced to 2 to 2¼ hours in total – 20 to 30 minutes at 180C, and 1½ to 1¾ hours at 150C.
• Although I haven’t tried it, but I’m thinking that this will also probably work in a wok, if an oven is not easily available. That is, using a straightforward traditional braising method, without the foil wrapping. Timings may need to be adjusted slightly though. And the ribs can still be finished off under the broiler for a few minutes at the end, to give a slightly crispier outside.
Happy ribbin’!
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omg renee, i want to try ya ribs...looks so yummie...i can smell it from here....i want to try...it looks better than my mum's version....
Posted by: husky9 | September 13, 2025 04:01 PM
yummy! haha. feeling hungry already.
Posted by: lex | September 13, 2025 04:15 PM
Evil Woman >: (
here i was about to embark on another
(probably unsucessful) diet and u destroy
my resolve with these yummy looking pictures.
now ken's stomach wants char siew rice with
rich dark sauce and an extra side order
of roast pork.
must report u to the Health Promotion Board.
but first must mop the saliva off the key board : D
Posted by: ken | September 13, 2025 05:41 PM
Hi Renee
Oooh...I like the look of your tasty char siew ribs! Must try your recipe the next time I buy some pork ribs.
I use a mixture of Marmite, honey and freshly ground black pepper as marinade the last time I grilled pork ribs in the oven. They turned out really good too!
Posted by: Alice Yong | September 13, 2025 06:13 PM
Slurp ... such yummy char siew kuat. Oh no!!! Am going to be imagining them throughout my pilates class afterwards.
Posted by: shiewie | September 13, 2025 07:08 PM
i cant wait to try this recipe, i tried ur char siu b4 and it was gorgeous. btw if you want, u could try liq smoke to ur marinate, but its jus chemicals, not that rec. another way is to experiment w smoking yet, but it apparently stinks the house. thanks for the blogs, i really dig ur site, it keeps this culinary student inspired
Posted by: tim | September 13, 2025 09:07 PM
Oooh, this looks so good!
Posted by: jcheng | September 14, 2025 01:15 AM
Oh my goodness--those look FABULOUS. Yes Renee, your misson, should you accept it, is to keep making those ribs and making those ribs until they are perfection. Actually, they look pretty darn perfect to me, judging from the saliva running down my chin as I gaze at the pictures!
Sher
Posted by: sher | September 14, 2025 01:47 AM
hi husky9,
; )
let me know how it goes if you try it out : )
hey lex,
: p
eh Ken... you like that ah... you report me then I just have to give you more chocolate loh...
; )
hey Alice!
long time no hear! hope you are well.
your marinade sounds interesting... tho' I have to confess that I'm not a Marmite (or Vegemite or Bovril for that matter) person. : p
hmmm... just a thought: an oyster sauce-hoisin sauce-ginger marinade would be tasty too : )
hope you get a chance to try out this char siew ribs recipe sometime.
hi Shiewie,
nice to hear from you! : )
lol! and I came back from Pilates class this morning and typed up the post and made myself all hungry and craving a meaty meal! : D
hi Tim,
thanks for dropping me a note : )
*wrinkles nose a little* I have to admit I'm not big on adding chemicals to my food... tho' the smoking idea sounds good (I think it can even be done in the wok... maybe), but it will give the ribs a different texture and flavor from what I was looking for.
may just try it out someday... thanks for the suggestions : )
glad you are enjoying the blog...
are you doing culinary school? how fascinating!
hiya jcheng,
they are quite finger lickin' good ; ) if I may say so myself : p
hey Sher,
thanks!
I'm sure I'll be making these ribs many more times yet.
they are quite a hit each time I've made them.
I like them pretty much just as they are right now... but I'm also a compulsive "tweaker"! so I'm very sure this dish is going to keep evolving... and who knows how it'll end up : )
Posted by: Renee | September 14, 2025 03:25 AM
yuuuum!!!
my mom always cooks those ribs with korean chilli paste marinade that she makes.. but i'd have to tell her to make that cuz it looks sooooo good and i.. can't cook.
Posted by: jinny | September 14, 2025 09:59 AM
Hi Renee,
I watched the rib episode of Good Eats at least two years ago and was dying to try the recipe. I never got around to it though. Anyway, it's called "Who Loves Ya Baby-Back?" and is at http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_11125,00.html . Everyone's raved about the recipe on the Food Network site. Also, the complete transcript of the show is somewhere on http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com . In the show, Alton explains why he picked those particular spices.
Posted by: Jessica | September 14, 2025 11:36 AM
*trembling lips*
I'm speechless. Renee, u really should consider running a restaurant. But then again... turning a hobby into a full time job just sucks all the pleasure out of it huh....
Those ribs look heavenly. Serving it with mee sua was unexpected but it sure looks wonderful! i can imagine how well the sauce will complement the noodles. Congrats on yet another culinary masterpiece :)
Posted by: Keith | September 14, 2025 02:03 PM
Hmm..... you had me really tempted. Just wondering if I can use the pressure cooker to the same effect. I mean putting it in the oven with the marinate for 3 hrs can be done in the pressure cooker for no more than an hr. What do you think?
Posted by: Nyetzy | September 14, 2025 04:46 PM
hey jinny,
these ribs are pretty "attention-free"... so I'm sure you'll make a success of it if you do decide to try them out yourself : )
hi Jessica,
thanks for the links! yep, I think that's the one... didn't get to catch that episode, but liked the look of the recipe...
actually, I couldn't even remember what the recipe was... had read it quite a while back and only filed the cooking method info into the back of my mind under "to try", and prompty forgot about the rest of the recipe.
the link's great... now I can read the recipe again, and the spice rub sounds interesting.
I've always only ever cooked ribs chinese style... maybe it's time to try some American style ribs for a change...
working with a dry rub will be an interesting experience for me : )
hiya Keith,
*blush* not sure I'm deserving of such high praise, but thanks : )
nah, you're right... I think running a restaurant will be a sure-fire passion-killer for me.
I actually like working with mee sua a lot... and in this instance they worked very well... absorbing the gravy flavors much better than noodles... plus I liked the starker contrast in textures too: between the much softer mee sua and the meaty bite of the ribs.
but then again, I'm quite a non-conformist when it comes to "food rules" (rules? what are those? ; ))
hi nyetzy,
I'm afraid my answer to your question is quite "black and white" : )
I'm not a big fan of the pressure cooker (while I don't always agree with a lot of the fiddly methods of professional chefs, I have to say in this instance I'm in total concurrence with them) - I find that while the pressure cooker does tenderize meat very quickly, it also unfortunately doesn't really develop the flavors or aromas.
personally, I think slow-cooking is very important for cooking ribs to develop the full depth in the flavors - be it Chinese braised pai kuat or Western bbq ribs.
I also think the kind of tenderness that pressure cooking and slow oven-cooking/braising produce are quite different from each other.
anyway, these are just my personal opinions : )
maybe... to shorten the time a little, wok-braising can be considered... this should be somewhat quicker than oven-braising... maybe just 1 1/2 to 2 hours or so for the ribs to be done.
the texture will be perhaps (not entirely sure about this) slightly different from oven braising, but the ribs can always be put under the broiler for a few minutes after they are done being wok-braised : )
Posted by: Renee | September 15, 2025 04:27 AM
Hi Renee,
Actually, I was a little skeptical of AB's dry-rub recipe because I like saucy ribs. But the ribs produce their own sauce! I actually worked with a dry rub for another recipe, and I found that the spices sealed in the juices.
Jessica ;-)
Posted by: Jessica | September 15, 2025 08:44 AM
Thanks for your opinion on the pressure cooker.Well, I'll try the oven braising method this time and maybe with the pressure cooker another time. This calls for an experiment!!
Posted by: nyetzy | September 15, 2025 01:45 PM
hi Jessica,
I have to admit I'm a little intrepid about dry rubs too, but your description sounds good : )
I'll have to try this out soon : )
hi nyetzy,
I hope my comments didn't offend : )
do let me know how the experimenting goes : ) (sounds like fun ; ))
Posted by: Renee | September 16, 2025 03:09 AM
Not at all. I value honest opinions :)
Posted by: nyetzy | September 16, 2025 01:27 PM
Hi Renee
After reading your post, I tried the oven braising method on boneless chix thigh and it works too! Best of all, the clean up is so much easier, just wrap up the foil and throw after cooking is done. Hehe. Thanks for the great idea.
Posted by: ST | September 16, 2025 09:10 PM
hi nyetzy,
: )
hi ST,
my pleasure : )
your chicken looks great!
glad the method worked out really well - I think I'm going to try it on chicken too (still have some boneless thighs in the freezer) : )
Posted by: Renee | September 18, 2025 04:33 AM
I must say these were a surprise success for me, as I rarely do well with recipes from other people (maybe they adjust things from the written version as they cook?)
In my puny oven I put a couple racks of belly spare ribs (trimmed very well of fat), following your recipe exactly except for a couple of things. I ran out of hoisin so I used 5 tbsp of hoisin and 3 of Lee Kum Kee char siu sauce. And I used 6 Tbsp of honey as I couldn't find maltose. And the juice of 1/2 a lemon.
It came out so yummy and munchy and juicy without being too fall-off-the-bone soft (as I guess baby backs would have been), just the way I like them. In fact, they were so good - with the amount of sweet things in the marinade I was afraid they'd be too sweet - I'm taking these to a pot luck! And I'll point them to your site if they ask for the recipe, which I'm sure they will.
Thanks ever so much, Renee!
Posted by: ondine | September 29, 2025 08:18 PM
hi ondine,
thanks so much for coming back to share your experience.
I'm so happy to hear the ribs turned out well for you...
I like your addition of lemon juice... giving the ribs a Western and tangy twist, which must have been delicious.
hope you'll have a great potluck : )
Posted by: Renee | October 1, 2025 02:41 AM