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Monday, July 19, 2025

Pie Therapy

A couple of weeks ago, I tried out my very first Nigella savory recipe – from HTBADG (that’s “How To Be A Domestic Goddess”, in case you are wondering icon_wink.gif). Buoyed by the resounding success of my Nutella birthday cake, I wanted to try her savory pie recipes to see if they were as easily successful as her sweet creations.

I chose the Supper Onion Pie. It seemed like the perfect choice for that day. I had just come home from a meeting where a deal I had been working very hard on for six months suffered a (temporary, as it turned out a few days later) setback. And it just felt rather appropriate to spend some time chopping onions. Lots and lots of onions. All 750g of onions, in fact! There was something quite therapeutic about chopping onions. One thing for sure: by the time I had prepped all the onions, I was feeling a lot better! icon_biggrin.gif

Okay, so the pie is called a Supper Pie, but I made it for a late lunch. No matter. It is only semantics after all. I think any time of the day is perfect for a slice of comforting, homey pie.

I was attracted to the pie for several reasons. I love caramelized onions, especially caramelized red onions; they are meltingly tender and soft, with a gorgeous caramel-y sweetness. And this pie came with copious amounts of the stuff. Plus, the recipe used a simple-sounding scone dough for the crust. I also liked the idea of the pie being made in the fashion of an upside-down cake; the cooked-down onions on the bottom of the pan, with the uncooked crust on top, so that it got nicely golden in the oven.

I pretty much made the recipe as it was in the book. No, I lie. Would I make a recipe without tinkering with it? C’mon. Seriously. Okay, so I did do a little bit of adjustment… but only a teeny weeny bit. And only to the onions. Instead of thyme – of which I had none on hand, be it fresh or dried – I used fresh chopped coriander (which I happen to absolutely adore). I also had no strong Cheddar or any other strong cheese in the fridge (this was hardly a pre-planned baking session after all). So, I settled for regular Cheddar. And oh, I also could not resist deglazing the pan with a little bit of wine, which the recipe did not call for.

The scone dough, however, was made exactly as the recipe requested. (I do obey instructions at least some of the time. icon_wink.gif)

And the pie came out looking gorgeous.

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The crust was nicely golden, and covered with a luscious, thick cushiony layer of beautifully aromatic onions.

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The onions tasted very good – but that’s because I like onions a lot. This was definitely not a pie for the onion non-lover that was for sure. It was more of a simple, two-note kind of a pie – with just onions and crust being the dominant players in terms of flavors and textures; there was little else for contrast.

I was somewhat disappointed with the texture of the crust. I’m not sure what I was expecting exactly, but the idea of a “scone dough” conjured up images of a slightly dense, yet still very tender crumb. This pastry was not only rather dense, but a little chewy and almost “dough-y” in bite. I really couldn’t say I had much enthusiasm for the crust at all. And I’m just wondering (as I know there are a lot of bakers amongst you who bake faithfully from Nigella’s recipes), has anyone made this pie before? Did you get the same result for the crust? Or did yours come out completely differently? I would love to find out. And maybe to try the crust again.

On balance, the pie was pretty good; but somehow not quite worth the effort. Sure, it was probably easier to put together than a regular pie that had a dough which needed to rest and then be rolled out. Yet, this was hardly a quick thing to serve up. From start to finish, it took almost 1½ hours (½ hour prepping, ½ hour cooking the onions, ½ hour baking) before this baby was on the table. I could have made fried rice or a simple pasta dish; grilled salmon over noodles or even a couple of stir-fried dishes served with rice in that amount of time or less. Please don’t get me wrong; this was by no means a “bad” recipe. I guess, for me personally, the results just weren’t exciting enough to warrant spending that amount of time in the kitchen.

Having said all that, I would still love to find a Nigella savory baking recipe to try out and fall in love with. So, I would welcome some recommendations; if you have had any wondrous experiences with any of her recipes, please, please let me know. smile.gif


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That looks very nice, Renee!!! The scone crust sounds a little like some of biscuit crusts that you find in a certain type of casserole, that is often brought to potlucks. Sometimes they are very delicate and sometimes they are a soggy mess. I've never fixed them, so I really don't know the secret of making one. I have two Nigella cookbooks, How To Eat and Nigella Bites. I don't have How To Be A Domestic Goddess, yet. I'm afraid to get it!!!! But, I'm fated to buy it eventually.


Talk about chopping onions. I make her caramelized onions in large batches and freeze them in small amounts. Then I can use that on sandwiches or tossed into stews and soups. Her recipe for Italian sausages with lentils is very fast and delicious. And I made her grandmother's recipe for pastry, stuffed with spiced ground beef, tomatoes, onions, olives and chopped eggs. She also has a recipe for Asian Spiced Kedgeree in Nigella Bites, that I want to try. That was a dish that people served when I was a child--but she has dressed it up with fish sauce, lime leaves, cilantro, and other things.

Sher

Posted by: sher | July 20, 2025 01:31 AM

I've made that pie recipe four times and every time I've also been disappointed with the crust; it's far too dense and heavy. It sits like a rock in our stomach! The last time I tried I followed the recipe from Jackie on The Daily Bread, where she didn't add any butter or baking powder - she said it was a more pizza-like crust. It was a little crisper, but still very heavy and dense.
Honestly, after 3 attempts, I can't say that I'll make it again.
That and the Christmas morning muffins (very dry) have been my only low points from an otherwise fabulous book.

Posted by: Niki | July 20, 2025 02:40 PM

hi Sher,
I think you are right.
maybe I was just expecting "scone" more along the lines of "English scones" given that Nigella is English... but this is probably more akin to the American scone/biscuit?

heh. I've just borrowed her Bites book from the library.
I think I'm also "fated" ; ) to buy this one (plus How To Eat) but just wanted to check it out first.
haven't had a chance to read it yet... but after a quick flip-through the slow roasted pork shoulder has really caught my eye.
have you tried that? any good?
the Kedgeree and stuffed pastry indeed sound scrummy... I missed those... have to go back to the book and look for them.

ooh, that's a great idea about the onions. didn't realize they freeze well.
will have to try that out.
I love caramelized onions in sandwiches and lots of other dishes!
thanks for the tip! : )


hi Niki,
thanks for sharing!
my sentiments exactly when I ate the pie - "sits like a rock in the stomach".
and I was wondering if it was my baking skills or the recipe. lol.
oh well, there are bound to be a few misses in any cookbook... I guess for me, this being only the 2nd recipe I've ever tried from Nigella, it came as a "surprise" and a bigger disappointment than it would have been if I had made many of her other good recipes first.
but glad to hear that the other recipes all seem to work well.
(and thanks for the tip about the X'mas muffins... will make adjustments accordingly if I ever decide to make it)
: )

Posted by: Renee | July 20, 2025 03:08 PM

I tried the slow roasted pork shoulder - dear God, it was good. (Although it didn't survive without some tweaking; she doesn't pour off the fat; I did, and I cooked it on a rack, or we'd have ended up with slow-fried pork shoulder. Also made the potatoes she suggests as an accompaniment, and since I was going mad with ludicrously expensive free-range pork, I went mad with those too and added truffles.) Really excellent, although little of the taste of the spices remains after cooking.

The ham in Coca Cola is also fantastic (and also got tweaked to death), despite the ominous-sounding method. How to Eat has been a good investment. At least, my husband, who gets to eat the stuff I slave over, thinks so...

Posted by: Liz | July 20, 2025 05:00 PM

I am currently into Nigella as they are playing Nigella Bites on 8tv in Malaysia. Made her clementine cake recently by substituting it with oranges and that was so easy to do. Tasted yummy also. Also tried her Italian lamb stew with pasta which was also very nice.

For more nigella stuff and a great forum that people discuss all things abt nigella, go to www.nigella.com and click on the yr page session.

Posted by: kylie | July 20, 2025 11:14 PM

I actually really like the crust on this. It gets the doughy feel from the onions steaming the underside of the crust whilst baking. It reminds me a lot of the scone-style pizzas that mum used to make us.

Posted by: Angela | July 21, 2025 01:18 AM

hi Liz,
thank you for the wonderful insights and tips into Nigella's recipes!
will save me alot of trial and error : )
I'm definitely making the pork shoulder once life settles down a little again.
just wondering... did you find the flavorings, as listed in the recipe, sufficient... or did you feel the need for some "enhancement"?
also, did you use sherry or vinegar?
sorry, so many questions... just thought I would pick your brain and your past experience of the recipe a little ; )

I saw the coca-cola pork recipe... and my initial reaction was "oooh, yay!" and "eeeck! urgh!" all at the same time.
I was tempted to try it just to see how good or disastrous it would turn out.
but now that you've told me how good it is... I'm definitely trying it soon.

thanks so much for sharing : )


hi kylie,
thanks for taking the time to drop me a note, and for the recommendations too : )


hi Angela,
I never knew that!
that the texture was a result of the onions. how interesting! thanks : )

Posted by: Renee | July 21, 2025 03:43 AM

I used sherry vinegar - if you can't get it in Singapore, I'm in Malaysia in September, so I could bring some in my suitcase and post it to you from the mainland (wouldn't be any trouble at all). It's useful stuff!

Seasonings...adequate, but not perfect. I also crisped up the crackling in a very hot oven at the end of cooking time. You lose any heat from the chilis and a lot of seasoning zing after all that cooking, so a dollop of chili oil on the side of the plate helps! Make sure you salt it well.

Coca Cola ham...I always fling a couple of tablespoons of coriander seeds in there with the coke. (Make it quite often; I've a few friends who ask for it specifically.) Try to get a smoked ham rather than a plain one...and beware; the crust will not stay put on the ham during cooking. These days I just admit defeat, glaze the ham by scoring the fat in diamonds and studding it with cloves, slosh over treacle and the juice from a can of peaches, and make the crust separately from the ham on a baking sheet; works very well.

Posted by: Liz | July 21, 2025 06:26 PM

hi, your whole post on nigella reminded me of her show which was quite short lived, which in turn reminded me of this show that i really like now - barefoot contessa. she has some cookbooks out as well. if you ever get a chance to watch her show, the food looks awesomely good. i haven't really read her books but the recipes in the show seem pretty straightforward. maybe u'll like to check it out.

Posted by: louanne | July 29, 2025 01:33 PM

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